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台北の街はまるで貧民窟?外国人の目に映る台北とは

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外國人說台北像貧民窟?兩派網友開戰了

外国人が台北の街並みを貧民窟のようだと称している?
賛否分かれて議論に


在你眼裡,台北是個什麼樣的地方呢?日前一名國外網友於YouTube上傳一段來台旅遊影片,直指台北新舊住宅混和,且老住宅中架設著各式各樣鐵窗,看起來極似監獄,讓國外網友看後直呼:「這像極了貧民窟!」該影片事隔兩年被轉發至《批踢踢實業坊》中,引發兩派網友開戰。

近日,一名網友於《批踢踢》中轉發兩年前一名國外網友於YouTube上傳來台旅遊的一段影片,影片中指出,該名國外網友認為在台北大街上走著,隨處可以住宅區中有許多舊式住宅穿插在新房子當中,且路邊充斥著各式各樣的攤販及餐廳,而最有趣的地方,在於有些餐廳外觀看起來相當華麗,但抬頭一看,卻發現其竟是位於老式住宅當中,相當神奇!

除此之外,該名國外網友還發現在台北路邊陳設了許多舊式電話亭,和當今人手一支手機的樣貌相當對比,看起來極為傳統;而在建築物中,也可看見在店家與店家之間,有許多看起來極為破舊且正在施工的地方,讓人感到非常不可思議。

あなたの目には、台北はどんな街として映っているだろうか?最近になってある一人の外国のネットユーザーがYouTube上に台湾旅行の動画を投稿、その中で台北の新旧住宅街が混在している様子、また住宅に各種様々な鉄製の窓が使用されているところなどは、見たところ監獄のようだとし、こう直接的に言っているのだ。「まるで貧民窟のようね!」この動画は投稿から二年の時を経て「PTT」(台湾最大の電子掲示板)に引用され、賛否分かれて激しい議論となっている。

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近日、あるネットユーザーが「PTT」城に二年前に海外のネットユーザーがYouTube上に投稿した台湾旅行の記録動画を引用した。動画の中では、投稿者は台北の大通りを歩きながら、住宅街では新しい住宅の合間に古い住宅が押し込まれるように混在し、かつ道端では各種さまざまな屋台やレストランが並んでいることを指摘、面白い場所であり、いくつかのレストランの外見はかなり豪華なものだとしている一方で、見上げれば、それらが古い建物の中に入っているところなどは、かなり不思議な光景だとしているのだ!

この他にも、この外国のネットユーザーは台北のあちこちに相当な旧式の電話ボックスが点在していることを発見、一人一台電話を持ち歩いているこの時代の中では、極めて旧態依然とした光景だともしている。さらに建物の中では、また店舗と店舗の間に、沢山の古くて壊れた施工部分が見られ、それらの光景が非常に不思議な感覚を抱かせるのだという。

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原PO網友於《批踢踢》寫道:「一位外國人說台北像貧民窟,台北人作何感想?」對此引發兩派網友爭論。其中一派網友相當認同,直指「外國人說的耶!當然是對的」、「台北跟紐約比,真的是貧民窟啊」、「受夠中華民國美學了,招牌五顏六色大大小小,一個比一個搶著凸出來」、「外觀都黑黑舊舊看起來就更像貧民窟」、「台北市容是真的需要拉皮」、「台灣觀光還主打台北,那市容根本國恥」

另一派網友則反駁「說像貧民窟的是哪裡人?歐洲人的話就算了,北美人的話根本智障,台北再怎麼樣也樂勝北美尼哥的ghetto」、「一堆人怪東怪西,自己家有好看到哪裡去嗎?」、「好笑了!那個人住得起台北嗎?」、「台北像貧民窟?哈哈哈,紐約路邊一堆柑仔店有比較潮?」「用市容來看一個國家發不發達真是可恥的論點」

この動画を引用しスレ立てを行ったネットユーザーはこう書いている。「ある外国人が台北は貧民窟のようだって言ってるけど、台北人はどう思うの?」これに対して賛否分かれた議論が発生しているのだ。その中のあるネットユーザーは外国人の意見に相当賛同している様子で、「外国人がそう言ってるんだろ!もちろんその通りだよ」「台北とニューヨークを比べたら、そりゃ貧民窟さ」「中華民国の美学にはうんざりだ、看板は様々な色で形もバラバラ、一つ一つが出しゃばってるんだから」「外患がどこも黒々と古臭くて、確かに見た感じを貧民窟みたいにさせてる」「台北市は脱皮が必要だよ」「台湾観光のメインはまだ台北だっていうのに、あの街は本当に国の恥だね」としている。

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一方反対派はこう反駁する。「貧民窟だって言ってるこいつは何人なんだ?ヨーロッパの人間だったらいいけど、北米の奴だったらそもそも何も知らない奴だね。ゲットーと比べれば台北の楽勝だよ」「どこもかしもおかしいって、だったらなんで見に来るんだ?」「笑うわ!こいつは台北に住む□があるのか?」「台北が貧民窟に似てるって?ははは、ニューヨークの道端のミカン屋台よりはマシだろ?」「一つの都市だけを見て国家の発達具合を語るなんて恥ずかしい話だよ」としている。



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台湾には老街という、歩いて楽しい古い街路がたくさん残っている。
中国にも古い街路が残っている。
マカオにも古い街路が残っていて好きだ。
隣の国では歩いて楽しい街路は無かった。
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日本にもひどいところあるし、個人的にそのままでいいとも思ってないよ
でも他国のこと気にしたことないわ
その国の人が決めること
外国までいって一々ネガティブな面見つけてどうしたいんだろう・・・
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どこの国にも古びた町はあるもんですよ、老朽化したのは危険だから直した方がいいが、台湾はいつでも魅力的ですよ^^。
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俺も行ったときツギハギみたいな街だなと思ったけど
古くて雑なところに色気があって好きだよ
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台北の規模は大阪名古屋くらいのイメージでいいのかね
まあ都市の洗練度では台湾→韓国→日本で、各10年にくらいの差か
台湾は韓国ほどガチで日本を意識して街づくりしてるわけじゃないから、古き良き日本の情緒とカオス感が残ってるのは確かだな
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金持ってるけど、街には投資しない感じだね
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街は旅行者の為にあるんじゃねぇ
そこに住んでる人たちの物だ
そして水清ければ魚棲まずだ
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ボロだろうがなんだろうが台湾好きだぞー
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東京の街並みは、ある意味もっと酷いかもな。
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台湾に旅行に行ったことあるけど、気付かなかった。
日本の商店街と似た賑やかさで楽しかったし、みんな親切で優しかった!
建物よりも心のキレイさがあれば十分だと思う。
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ある程度古いものを残しておく方が風景に味が出るのよ。
旅行に来てその国を腐す動画upとかこいつらの民度のほうが最低だよ。
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猥雑でなくなった香港が何の魅力も発しなくなったように
綺麗すぎる台北なんて台北じゃない
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貧民窟というより雑多なオリエンタルレトロつか昭和レトロ?台湾には大日本帝国レトロもあるしw
歴史がないとレトロは醸し出されない奥深い味わいなのよ。うむ。
何でもかんでも破壊して歴史がないところには咲けない華なのよw
東アジアの本当の貧民窟が観たいなら日本海の西側にある半島に逝くことをお勧めする。高層建築群の裏手はまさに究極のベストスポット請けあい∩(ΦωΦ)∩
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アハハ
ブスが変なサングラスでどや顔w
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遊台灣となっているから香港人だな。
てか、香港人が言えるのか?w
あの悪人城は綺麗サッパリ消滅したけど。
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てかこのブスは何人なんだよ
偉そうに言えるほどこいつの国は発展してるのか
よほどの先進国でない限り、
どの国にだってボロボロな建物ぐらいあるわ
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この雑多な感じが魅力的なんだよなぁ。
ドバイや上海に行って街はキレイでもなんか違うんだよ。オフィス街を歩いてるみたいでさ。楽しくはないんだよな。
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中華民国や中華人民共和国に支配されていなければもっと豊かで発展していたと思う
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